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06/23/2008

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street_musician wrote:
AMEN! My baby (4 months now) was in a strange position similar to a breech position from about 23 weeks on and I have an extremely small pelvis, so I pretty much was preparing myself for a c-section. When they finally scheduled it and I told people you can't imagine the rude and insensitive remarks I got! It seems a lot of people are more concerned with their "birth experience" than the actual health of the baby. It seems like a very selfish viewpoint to me. All I cared about was the health of Elijah. My husband and I both had a special beautiful experience with a c-section (he watched the whole thing) and I was able to nurse him the second they sewed me up! In a perfect world we could all have natural birth and healthy babies, but it doesn't always work out that way! I thank God for c-sections because in the past both my baby and I would have died in birth. Thanks for bringing this subject to light...all the birth Nazis need to calm down!
6/24/2008 10:50 AM CDT

Siddamom wrote:
I call it the tyranny of the norm (although I know I didn't coin that...) and after I had a disappointing C-section, unnecessary, I was an ideologue about it, too.

I grew up, grew wiser, and let others do their own thing. I just read on another blog that fundamentalist thinking (and not just religious fundamentalist, anything dogmatic) is like committing intellectual suicide.

I think some people also don't want to feel the feelings associated with ambiguity, and get dogmatic about emotional issues, killing their fears and doubts when they might grow from them, albeit painfully.


virginiawilliams wrote:
Christy, another beautiful post. I think you should find a market to publish this. It makes me crazy, all these judgments about our mothering, our birthing, our raising, our conceiving...who wins? This is about our children, not which of us mothers wins the prize for "did it the 'natural' way." Why do we all want to feel so damn superior (and I don't exclude myself from that...we're all insecure in our mothering, hence the judgment, I suppose). I don't know where it comes from, but I do wish it would stop.

Things don't always go as planned. There are many smug, superior mothers out there (and others as well, fathers, grandmas, aunts, etc.) who think it's all so easy, this is what you do and la-di-da, nothing to it. Until you've been in a different room than the "normal" one, whether it be because of your delivery, your baby's illness, your baby's death. If I've learned anything in my life, I've learned not to judge. And why? Because of my child.
6/24/2008 6:39 PM CDT

Following Elias wrote:
I love having such wise compassionate courageous readers who give me the gift of their words...and hearts.

As women we are hard enough on ourselves without carrying the judgments of others. I'm sorry people were insensitive to you street_musician, though I believe it-- and Virginia you are so right, who wins?...I mean really?

I think Siddamom you expressed it perfectly with your last statement: "I think some people also don't want to feel the feelings associated with ambiguity, and get dogmatic about emotional issues, killing their fears and doubts when they might grow from them, albeit painfully."

Yes, yes, yes. ugh.
6/25/2008 2:06 AM CDT

Judy Christensen wrote:
Your comments about those who are so sure they have all of the answers touched a spot in my heart. 31 years ago I spent long hours in labor only to have my son become stuck in the birth canal. After pushing for a long time, he was in trouble and I had an emergency c-section. As one of you said in "the old days" we both would have died is the truth. He was OK once they got him out and so was I. You can imagine the comments I got from those who knew better, "did your Dr have a golf game to go to?" was one of my favorites. Thanks for educating those who don't know that we are not failures at having babies only using a different method. love to all three of you, Judy
6/25/2008 10:15 AM CDT

gretacamp wrote:
Like Judy, I had a long labor and eventual c-section, and I never dreamed that would happen to me. If I had anyone to go by, my mom had four kids with no drugs, and I am big and strong like her. My male OB was extremely patient and never rushed to cut the baby out. He was there with me all day and night (in and out, of course). I thank him so much for helping bring my babies into the world safely. I needed his help and he was very experienced. I remember when I met Elias the summer after he was born, you told me how many days you pumped milk before you could actually nurse him. I couldn't believe how difficult that must have been. But then again, thank goodness for pumps! I like to associate with the peeps in the trenches and not those up on the high horses. I learn so much more from the ground.
6/25/2008 10:44 AM CDT

Following Elias wrote:
Greta and Judy, thanks so much for sharing your stories. Big hugs to you both!!!!!
6/26/2008 12:53 AM CDT

Niksmother wrote:
Powerful, Christy. Very powerful and moving. I am also grateful for the medical technology which allows me to celebrate each day with my son.

Babies are beautiful, are very happy people are nice.
why people give the babies up for adoption if they are not to blame for the mistakes of older people.

Your comments about those who are so sure they have all of the answers touched a spot in my heart. 31 years ago I spent long hours in labor only to have my son become stuck in the birth canal. After pushing for a long time, he was in trouble and I had an emergency c-section. As one of you said in "the old days" we both would have died is the truth. He was OK once they got him out and so was I. You can imagine the comments I got from those who knew better, "did your Dr have a golf game to go to?" was one of my favorites. Thanks for educating those who don't know that we are not failures at having babies only using a different method. love to all three of you, Judy

Uhhm, 13 is a pretty sensitive time for young boys, too. I would have been mortified. No dice on the double standard.

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Il existe d'autres alternatives pour résoudre cette crise qui ne charge pas gravement la charge du contribuable américain (la façon dont le plan actuel ne). Mais, espérons que ces alternatives seront examinées rapidement avant qu'il ne s'aggrave ... oh, et que les dirigeants nationaux cherchent la sagesse de Dieu dans ce processus ci-dessus toute autre chose.

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